Subjects: Optus outage; Labor’s cost of living crisis; PNG NRL team talks; Pacific Islands Forum.
E&OE
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Let’s bring in Acting Prime Minister Richard Marles in Geelong and Opposition Leader Peter Dutton in Brissie.
Morning guys. Nice to see you.
Richard, to you first-up. The 100 buck gigabyte voucher from Optus, whatever that is. I mean, what a joke.
RICHARD MARLES:
Well, I think Optus really needs to make clear to the, well, to its customers, exactly what happened here. I mean, we saw customers lose service, in some cases, for up to 14 hours. That obviously had a really big impact on their businesses, on their ability to stay connected. From a government point of view, we were obviously very concerned about keeping Australians safe, so the 000 service, you know, we were working very hard to make sure that that stayed in place, but landline customers for Optus, for example, were not able to access that. It’s why Optus really does need to explain what has happened here and it’s obviously why we’ve undertaken a review so that we can learn the lessons of this, not just for Optus, but in fact for all telecommunication companies.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Do you know how many government contracts they have, federal government contracts?
RICHARD MARLES:
No, I don’t have that information at hand. Obviously, we were…
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Okay, unfair question, unfair question, but would you be would you be reviewing that now?
RICHARD MARLES:
What we want to understand is exactly what happened here and make sure that lessons are learnt. I mean, the critical thing here for all Optus customers is that they get satisfaction around the question of what occurred. But obviously, there will be issues around compensation, and as the Telecommunication Industry Ombudsman has said, people should keep their receipts, and no doubt that’s exactly what Optus customers will be doing right now. But we’ve got to learn the lessons from this which is why we’re undertaking the review that we are.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Peter, we probably need tighter regulation?
PETER DUTTON:
Well, Karl, I respect what Richard’s said, but it’s pretty cold comfort for particularly a lot of small businesses, cafes and others, who couldn’t transact without that tap and go service, which relies on wireless or their broadband connection. I just think the level on which we rely now, in a connected society, on these services being up to scratch is phenomenal and the Government needs to work harder. This is not the first breach on their watch, and people have their data held by Optus, they have a reliability question in their minds now about the service being provided by Optus, and I think they’ve got a lot of repair work to do.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
That’s for sure.
Richard, the RBA has introduced their 13th rate hike. I know it’s not all your fault, but I think Australians are starting to feel you’re letting them down badly – you’re failing them on cost of living pressure?
RICHARD MARLES:
Well, cost of living has obviously been the focus of what the Government has been about since we’ve come to power, because we understand the pressure that this is placing on Australian household budgets, on businesses. It’s why last week, for example, we saw the tripling of the bulk billing incentive come into force. That’s the biggest investment in bulk billing in Medicare’s history. That’s about making it cheaper to go and see a doctor, but be it are cheaper medicines, more affordable childcare, fee-free TAFE, putting downward pressure on energy bills…
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Richard, Richard, I get it, but I feel like….
RICHARD MARLES:
…that’s what we’ve been doing.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
I know, but every time you’re asked about this, anyone in your Government, the same lines come out. I feel like you don’t get it: that you don’t get the pressure that Australian households are under right now.
RICHARD MARLES:
Of course we understand the pressure. I mean, this is having an enormous impact and it’s why we’ve taken those measures. It’s also why we want to make sure that in terms of managing the budget, we’re not contributing to the inflationary environment, which is why we’ve done something, Karl, the Liberals never did, and that’s deliver a budget surplus.
But to be clear, this is a situation which is existing around the world. It began under the former Government, we know that the biggest increase in inflation occurred when the Liberals were in power, which is simply to say that, you know, Australia is not immune from this. The Liberals weren’t immune from it. What the Government needs to do and what we’ve been focussed on is putting in place measures which help. Making sure that the fiscal management of the country, the budget management, isn’t contributing to it. That’s what we’re doing.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Okay, Pete, the fuel excise, would you cut that again?
PETER DUTTON:
Well, Karl, just a couple of points on cost of living. I think it’s unbelievable that the Government can now tell you that their highest priority has been cost of living, when for the last 18 months the Prime Minister has been solely focussed and completely absorbed by the Voice.
They’ve made decisions in two budgets now which have made it harder for families, driven up inflation, and as we see in Australia now, we’ve got the worst real wage growth in the country. In fact, people are going backwards under this Government. The Prime Minister just doesn’t get it because he’s never here.
In relation to fuel excise, we did halve the rate of fuel excise, but only for a temporary period of time, for six months. It came at a cost of $3 billion. So it’s very expensive to do it, but it does provide a lot of instant relief to people who at the moment are paying the Reserve Bank cash rate is 4.35. It was 0.35 when Labor came into power and they keep spending money which is driving up interest rates.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
If we’re not getting the infrastructure benefits of that, is that a yes or no to you Richard, on cutting the fuel excise, are you going to do that or not?
RICHARD MARLES:
We don’t have plans to do that…
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Okay.
RICHARD MARLES:
…and as Peter just said, it is very expensive. You know, the former Government did it briefly. We are focussed on measures which are long standing and make a difference.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
Okay. Couple of quick ones. Richard, you’re backing an NRL side, it seems this morning, in Papua New Guinea. I just wanted to know is that all PNG wants, to say ‘no’ to China, or is there a little bit more on the shopping list?
RICHARD MARLES:
Well, we’re doing a whole lot in the Pacific, let me say that, and the Prime Minister being at the Pacific Island Forum right now – I mean, Peter makes a cheap shot about him being overseas – but our national security in so many ways lies in the Pacific: a fact that the former Government completely missed. I mean, rather than focusing on our national security in the Pacific, Peter spends his time making fun of people in the Pacific.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
What about the shopping list?
RICHARD MARLES:
Well, there’s a whole lot of measures that we’re doing in terms of cooperation in defence with PNG, for example, which is really significant. But let me say, a PNG team in the NRL will be as big a thing as we do in terms of transforming our bilateral relationship with Papua New Guinea.
Having gone there many, many times, I can tell you they are rugby league-mad. The three biggest days in PNG – it’s quite a religious country, so it’s not Christmas or Easter – it is the State of Origin between New South Wales and Queensland, where, you know, there is no one on the streets because they’re watching that. It is hard to state how excited it will be for Papua New Guinea to see the Kumul jersey running out in the NRL. So we are very keen to work with them and seeing that happen.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
What a beautifully cheap way of rebuffing China as well, you conniving person, you.
Hey Pete, before we go, look, we saw Albo on the world stage last night. There are a couple of things you don’t do – I think this is one of them:
[Vision of Prime Minister dancing]
KARL STEFANOVIC:
There we go! I think this was the next song:
[Song: Losing It – Fisher]
KARL STEFANOVIC:
There he goes!
Alright, promise me, promise me you two will never – Pete, you’re first up on Albo’s dancing style.
PETER DUTTON:
Richard and I, in our contract with the Today Show: no singing, no dancing. It’ll never happen. You’ve got to wear the shirts – we’ve all worn the shirts and even done karaoke, but fortunately there’s never been footage of that. So good luck to the PM.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
It exists, I’ve got it.
RICHARD MARLES:
I can’t see the vision, but I have seen this movie before, and when there’s a dance floor and a camera, you get to the other side of it.
KARL STEFANOVIC:
That’s right. You can’t see it, but you can feel it!
Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.
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